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  1 Meeting for each of your fingers ? ? ?

  by william draper in

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  anybody remember how this became a doctrine , years ago , we were at the meetings so that out fingers would be learning something .

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  In Biblical times there was only ONE primary meeting , see ACTS ch 15
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  1 Meeting for each of your fingers ? ? ?

  by william draper in

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  anybody remember how this became a doctrine , years ago , we were at the meetings so that out fingers would be learning something .

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  This is what got me thinking one day , I was just saying to myself , how can they keep on teaching this stuff , ONE MEETING FOR EACH FINGER ? ? ? ? How can ANYBODY in their right mind teach this to others ? ???
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  1 Meeting for each of your fingers ? ? ?

  by william draper in

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  anybody remember how this became a doctrine , years ago , we were at the meetings so that out fingers would be learning something .

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  Anybody remember how this became a doctrine , years ago , we were at the meetings so that out fingers would be learning something . ..
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  Hounded to his Death

  by Slidin Fast in

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  http://www.thanetgazette.co.uk/inquest-concludes-dad-died-margate-night-went/story-26272711-detail/story.html.

  this story makes me ill with rage.

  this man's crime?

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  No mention of finding a body ? ? ?
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  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  by cofty in

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  ... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

  it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

  they take pride in obedience.

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  Blood in scripture is shown to be something very special , not just a commodity , to save a life using blood if that is what it required surely would be OK , The business of blood collecting I believe would be quite questionable , where one is selling their blood . One donating blood to the known person receiving it surely would be doing a fine thing I believe , that is my opinion , especially if such is amongst family even more I believe , but ones should seek alternative if possible .
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  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

  it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

  they take pride in obedience.

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  I believe you are on the right track , previous discussion where I referenced my 25 translation bible seemed to show such light on the matter , remember also King Saul's son and many other Israelites ate meat without draining the blood or anything else , they just killed the animals and began eating , this was just after a battle , King Saul planned on killing his son for this , but was advice d not to by the priest I believe. but not sure , They all were forgiven . GOOD POINT INDEED I BELIEVE
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  I have a serious problem

  by My Name is of No Consequence in

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  i have a serious problem that i cannot solve on my own.

  i was born-in but am only in by a thread at this point.

  i quit the tms a few weeks ago and wrote a post on it.

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  Many have given good advice on here . If the child's dad is alive and a witness , I don't expect there would be any way to keep the child from studying with another witness , and being baptized , if the child's dad by blood is not a witness and has nothing to do with his son by choice ( unlikely ) , and you truly are wanting to do right in the eyes of God , I think many have given you good support . I hope for the best .
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  I have a serious problem

  by My Name is of No Consequence in

  1. jw
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  i have a serious problem that i cannot solve on my own.

  i was born-in but am only in by a thread at this point.

  i quit the tms a few weeks ago and wrote a post on it.

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  CORRECTION ... Do not mistake being unsure about some things or feeling the need for more understanding , as being spiritually weak . Also we don't have room for you on this boat , too many men already aboard . FIX IT .
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  I have a serious problem

  by My Name is of No Consequence in

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  i have a serious problem that i cannot solve on my own.

  i was born-in but am only in by a thread at this point.

  i quit the tms a few weeks ago and wrote a post on it.

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  You need to take immediate steps to strengthen the. Relationship you have with your son , listen to some of Ray Franz book on YouTube if you can't get book , You NEED to set an example for your son showing courage and strength , acting with wisdom . If you are posting on here . . . you have surely already been marked , do not mistake wanting to questioningly things as being spiritual , it is not the same . YHWH
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  Old Friends of Ocala and Gainesville

  by william draper in

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  2. friends

  just wondering from amongst my old friends , who has managed to realize that the jehovah witnesses do not have attachedthat so called truth , while one of my books supports one of their primary doctrines i have written another book from my handwritten notations of more than 500 scriptures , which really opened my eyes to how they are able to bend around certain scriptures , without fully considering , such along with others , using a certain type of formatted reasoning to support some doctrinal issues which have merit , yet refusing to use the same kind of reasoning when you have scriptural content which demands such , but it goes against the tradition of the org , so they use some of the most bizzare reasoning to jus support the status quo .. my first book is called 500 scriptures against the trinity doctrine , based upon handwritten notations of more than 500 scriptures .

  think about this , this should have been a book written long ago , there being so many at bethel with supposedly much more of gods spirit than myself .

  this should be like their book we , but it is surely hidden amongst those that have it .

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  Just wondering from amongst my old friends , who has managed to realize that the Jehovah Witnesses do not have attachedthat so called TRUTH , while one of my books supports one of their primary doctrines I have written another book from my handwritten notations of more than 500 scriptures , which really opened my eyes to how they are able to bend around certain scriptures , without fully considering , such along with others , using a certain type of formatted reasoning to support some doctrinal issues which have merit , yet refusing to use the same kind of reasoning when you have scriptural content which demands such , but it goes against the tradition of the ORG , so they use some of the most bizzare reasoning to jus support the status quo .

  My first book is called 500 scriptures against the Trinity Doctrine , based upon handwritten notations of more than 500 scriptures . THINK ABOUT THIS , this should have been a book written long ago , there being so many at Bethel with supposedly much more of Gods spirit than myself . This should be like THEIR BOOK we , but it is surely hidden amongst those that have it .

  What an eye opener it has been to read what one of the former Governing body members wrote in his book CRISES OF CONSCIENCE , the Society launching FALSE ACCUSATIONS against this book just to keep their people in the dark .

  One of the most pertinent scriptures against the WATCHTOWER is found inn1st COR 14 vs 30 .... that if understanding should come to another , let the other one keep silent . . . .WE ARE ALL TO READ THE ** BIBLE ** as our PRIMARY source for understanding . , and of course we all know ACTS 17: 11 , There is nobody amongst the ORG that can say that Gods spirit will not rest upon a most in seemingly person of today . That in no way could be considered as one of the 144,000 by ORG MANDATED THEOLOGY , nor are they outstanding in any other way .

  Sincerely William Draper